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[Buck Dodgers]

Posting as requested

[Bombast]

[DAYLEET]

Buck Dodgers, on 28 November 2016 - 10:09 PM, said:

Posting as requested

You win. The match maker isnt supposed to match T5 with T2, much less T1 that was in this game.

I just want to add, sorry you are stuck with people who have played hundreds of hours.


People were right to ask for a screeny. Lets not get into a war of whether you should trust me not not, this isnt about trust. I trust you all trust me by now =) but you cant have facts without the facts. It's science, like how womens brain are smaller or how the MM works 60% of the time, every time.

Edited by DAYLEET, 11 December 2016 - 12:27 PM.

[BLOOD WOLF]

DAYLEET, on 28 November 2016 - 10:26 PM, said:

You win. The match maker isnt supposed to match T5 with T2, much less T1 that was in this game.

was it group or Solo? Just curious

[DAYLEET]

BLOOD WOLF, on 28 November 2016 - 10:27 PM, said:

was it group or Solo? Just curious

It was SOLO Quick Play, i know theres no Tiering in group. I dismissed him as a troll and challenged him to post on the forum.

I come back on my word, group at first had a 60seconds valve like quickplay and then was lowered to 30second. Dunno where they are now. We do know for a fact that no one, at ANY tier should be put with another guy thats 3 tier above/under him.

Edited by DAYLEET, 29 November 2016 - 11:57 AM.

[BLOOD WOLF]

DAYLEET, on 28 November 2016 - 10:28 PM, said:

It was solo i know theres no Tiering in group. I dismissed him as a troll and challenged him to post on the forum.

thanks, just looked back at the notes, and I remembered that I read it before, but have forgotten.

I guess it was because when running a group, somebody who was in teir 1 said that because of him we were going against harder than usual opponents, definitely wasn't the case, or maybe it was a joke.

Edited by BLOOD WOLF, 28 November 2016 - 10:39 PM.

[martian]

DAYLEET, on 28 November 2016 - 10:28 PM, said:

It was solo i know theres no Tiering in group. I dismissed him as a troll and challenged him to post on the forum.

Just to make sure that I understand it correctly: You (as Tier 2 player) met a Tier 5 player in Solo game?

I thought that it was impossible because the matchmaker's limit is +/- 2 tiers.

[Bombast]

BLOOD WOLF, on 28 November 2016 - 10:37 PM, said:

I guess it was because when running a group, somebody who was in teir 1 said that because of him we were going against harder than usual opponents, definitely wasn't the case, or maybe it was a joke.

An easy mistake. That's how the MMs of most games work. I suspect the heavily inflated team limit and a comparably small user base torpedoes that for MWO.

Edited by Bombast, 28 November 2016 - 10:47 PM.

[DAYLEET]

martian, on 28 November 2016 - 10:45 PM, said:

Just to make sure that I understand it correctly: You (as Tier 2 player) met a Tier 5 player in Solo game?

I thought that it was impossible because the matchmaker's limit is +/- 2 tiers.

For the sake of clarity lets call it QUICK PLAY. pretty sure there was t1 too.

Tristan Winter, on 29 November 2016 - 05:38 AM, said:

"Quick play" can be both solo and group queue.

damnit, was tired, it was SOLO quick play.

Edited by DAYLEET, 29 November 2016 - 11:59 AM.

[BlueFlames]

*Sigh*

This development shouldn't surprise me, but it does.

[Bohxim]

Rumor has it... that the filter for MM is unlocked after X amount of minutes trying to form a lobby...those were the tales of match maker past. .. OooooOooOoooo

[Ghogiel]

Now all someone has to do is post the image of the end of round screen.

[627]

*actually* in the description of the matchmaking it was only said that a Tier 1 would never see a tier 4 or 5. We all thought that means +2/-2 but maybe it wasn't a showcase how it works but the only limit the matchmaking has

However, I'm pretty sure after a given time the "release valves" are opened so you can get match with anyone. And you can try that pretty easy, make a new account and don't win your first 5 matches, then have a good look on the player names. Playing off peak hours helps and you'll see known faces from higher tiers in no time.

[Jingseng]

Keep in mind that above all else, MM is supposed to put together games. If there are not enough players to respect tiers, I fully would have expected (as is apparently here the case) MM to just ignore tiers and stick any 24 (as much within, but so what if not, tier rules) players together.

Seriously, did you expect it to just go "sorry, not enough players in tie ring rules, you don't get to play at all"? (We already have that in fw, how awesome is that?!) and just because of a combination on server selection, time of day, and tiers coincided to make for a deadzone

Edit: clarify, I meant we have that already in faction play from the stand point of not enough players, so no one plays, and not tier matching.

Edited by Jingseng, 28 November 2016 - 11:37 PM.

[Shiroi Tsuki]

Context?

[Bombast]

Shiroi Tsuki, on 28 November 2016 - 11:48 PM, said:

Context?

He was just proving his tier to demonstrate MMs failing, apparently.

[meteorol]

Screenshot?

I'm not doubting the MM is mixing t5 with t1 if release values kick in, but having a screenshot would be nice. I mean, you easily could (not saying you did) create an alt account to set this post up.

Again, i'm not saying you did, but there will certainly be people who think so. Having a screenshot would quickly silence doubts.

[martian]

DAYLEET, on 28 November 2016 - 10:51 PM, said:

For the sake of clarity lets call it QUICK PLAY. pretty sure there was t1 too.

Oh, well. Now I know why I see players in my games who struggle with WASD.

[Jingseng]

What would be the point of "setting this up"?

[The Unstoppable Puggernaut]

Jingseng, on 29 November 2016 - 12:49 AM, said:

What would be the point of "setting this up"?

I was trying to work out the same lol.